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3WayLinks vs. LinkVana – Which is Best For Building Easy Backlinks?

January 28th, 2008 · 78 Comments

As you may already know, 2 of my highest recommendations for getting easy search engine rankings is to use the following services:

3WayLinks.net

LinkVana (“link building nirvana”)

Both are extremely effective at creating search engine presence easily, effortlessly, and quite quickly. 

But both are also monthly paid subscriptions, and each one has it’s own set of strengths and weaknesses. So let’s find out which one you should use for getting easy rankings (and easy TRAFFIC).

But first, let me quickly explain why 3WL and LinkVana are so powerful…

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The lifeblood of free search engine traffic (especially from Google) is LINKS.

Yes, your site needs to have well-targeted content. And yes, using sitemaps and properly optimized internal linking, title-tags, meta-descriptions, header-tags and proper usage of the rel=”nofollow” tags (for page-rank funneling) helps to optimize your site for maximum traffic once it has some authority.

But all of the above is merely an afterthought in comparison to the importance of OFF-SITE optimization. Links.

Your site will never get substantial search traffic unless you have a solid foundation of backlinks from other websites. Especially one-way links given voluntarily, without having to link back to the site linking to yours (reciprocal linking, which Google can recognize and discount appropriately).

So how do you get one-way backlinks? 

There’s a few ways. Article submission, directory submission, press release submission, software/shareware submissions (to some extent), begging other webmasters, creating something really cool or controversial and then promoting it (linkbait), creating scripts and themes that, when installed, include a backlink - and so on and so forth.

The most powerful links, though, are contextual one-way links from sites recognized as an authority – where the link is one of only a few on that particular page (aka. not part of a link directory). Even a handful of these types of links can literally cement your search engine listings. An example would be a link from major authority sites like the Wall Street Journal, a Government site, Education/Universitry sites, or something similar.

And in almost every case, those sorts of links will only be acquired if your site contains something significantly different or newsorthy. (Which is why Google values them so much – they’re actually a “vote”).

The other way to get one-way links that will dramatically boost your search presence is to CHEAT.

Yes – cheat.

And I don’t mean “black-hat” cheating, content-scraping, comment-spamming, etc.

What I mean is doing perfectly ethical activities that, while NOT violating Google’s TOS, actually tap into a loophole that exploits the way that the search engine’s algorithms are designed – resulting in floods of traffic from search engines for very little effort.

Cheating, in this case, is paying for one-way text links from authority sites.

You can do this on an individual, site by site basis, but since most sites with a PageRank of 6 or higher charge more than $30/mth per link, this can get real pricey – FAST. And it’s getting harder and harder to purchase one-way links on a permanent basis. Webmasters have caught on to the linking craze, and they make far more money for their virtual real estate by charging on a monthly basis.

I do buy some text links individually, but I’ve almost stopped doing this entirely now, being as there’s no real way to “gage” where your actual rankings come from (which link you bought equated to SE rankings).

Instead, I “buy” masses of non-reciprocal links by using 3WayLinks and LinkVana as a major part of my SEO approach for affiliate sites, in addition to articles, directory subs, bookmarking, press releases, relevant forum posting, linkbaiting, etc.

They both give me a real and definite edge for ALL of my participating sites – meaning that I can do half the work and get twice the traffic of my competitors because of this link-foundation. I subscribe to both 3WL and LinkVana, and I use them both for different functions.

Here’s how they compare, head to head:

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3WayLinks & LinkVana both essentially do the same thing – they make it really, really easy to get one-way-links that actually count, for practically whatever keyword or keyphrase you want.

Both services can be used to generate literally THOUSANDS of one-way links. What that means in the real world is, potentially, hundreds of top-rankings for profitable keywords that will result in TRAFFIC and, if your site converts – EASY SALES.

They create an unfair advantage for their members, because obtaining non-reciprocal links for a desired keyword phrase is by far the most difficult and time-consuming task when it comes to SEO, bar none!

The only question is – which one’s better?

The answer depends on what you need. Let’s compare them in detail…

3WayLinks Overview:

3WayLinks is a proprietary, secure linking script that adapts itself to your own site’s design (leaving no “footprint”). Each site that gets approved for the program is allowed to acquire 250 non-reciprocal links with 3 keyword variations, pointing to the root domain link, for up to 50 domains per account.

Your site will receive links from quality sites, as well as linking out to other quality sites in the network – but NONE of the links are reciprocal. And each site in the network is scanned to ensure Google inclusion, so that no one is linking to a site that’s been banned or de-indexed.

The links are built across the network of other participating sites (there’s thousands), and range from PR0 to PR7. They’re also added gradually, so as to appear natural.

Jonathan Leger (founder, creator of 3WL) is also currently in the process of developing a new & exciting feature for members. I emailed him about it a few days ago – here was his response in his own words:

“Hi Chris,

The new one-way linking system lets members create a “helper” site which they install a script on which creates a categorized link directory. Each “helper” site links to whatever links the other members have configured, so that each member gets 1,000 true one-way links per helper site they have in the system. You can have up to 10 helper sites for each account.

Jon”

So in brevity, very shortly, in addition to generating 250 non-reciprocal links per site for up to 50 domains (under PR4, sites in your account with a PR4+ don’t count against your quota), you’ll also be able to potentially get up to 10,000 true one-way links for your desired keyword as well.

(Hint: that’s powerful!)

3WayLinks is $47 per month, but for the results you can currently achieve for keywords and keyphrases with medium competition in practically any market – this makes it a bargain.

LinkVana Overview:

LinkVana is basically an insider access-panel that allows you to publish an unlimited number of one-way, in-context links across an ever-growing network of established blogs. The network includes literally thousands of different domains across a variety of IP addresses and C-Classes.

Each link is posted within a short text blurb (blog post) consisting of about 100 words, or a paragraph in other words. This can be done by you, your writer, or it can be outsourced through the LinkVana panel for $2 per post.

The beauty of this system is that these are contextual links that, when posted, end up on established sites with few outbound links per page. This means that your incoming links will have much more value than links in a directory.

There’s also no participation required from your own site – no code to install. These are true one-way links in every sense.

LinkVana is currently $147 per month at the moment, and is scheduled for an increase to $197/mth shortly. There is a member cap of only 300 members. That may sound like a lot for the price point, but considering how well this works, how much of a shortcut it is for generating links, how many people want to boost their search rankings, and how many people can generate a massive ROI from their membership – the 300 member limit will be reached very shortly.

That’s an overview of both services – now let’s look at each one’s strengths and weaknesses:

3WayLinks Strong Points:

* Truly Automates the Link-Building Process. You simply plug your site into the program, and you’ll gradually attain 250 non-reciprocal links over the course of a several weeks, without lifting a finger.

* Tracks Your Ranking Progress For Each of Your Sites. Your user account panel at 3WayLinks is very intuitive and useful. You can see the effectiveness of your linking campaigns in real-time right from your 3WL account.

* Perfect For Mini-Sites, Adsense Sites, Small Product-Review Sites, etc. If you’re targeting long-tail or mid-tail keywords with traffic, then this is a TOTAL no-brainer for you. Let the competition kick and scratch for the coveted terms with 4 million competing sites while you clean up with the automatic rankings for keywords that fit the “desperate” profile in Part 1 of Confessions of a Lazy Super-Affiliate

* Perfect For Building a Network of Sites Within a Niche. I mentioned using “kindling” sites to gage the effectiveness of layouts, “angles”, keyword clusters and so on in niches simultaneously to see which direction to take with your actual authority sites, feeder products and so on in a previous post. 3WayLinks makes ranking these “kindling sites” a total breeze, and you can later feed the traffic and pagerank from your “kindlings” to your authority site within the niche for an instant influx of traffic, exposure and “link love” when the time is right.

* The Price is Right – To Say the Least. $47/mo. had better be what EACH of your sites is making from the automatic rankings you get from 3WL – if not, then you’re either selling a total dud, or targeting ridiculous keywords (or markets)! In all seriousness, though, it’s excellent money for value. More than worth the membership fee…

Check Out How 3WayLinks Works Exactly >>

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LinkVana Strong Points:

* Truly Unlimited One-Way Links. These are real one-way links, inside a contextual paragraph, on well-established sites that Google spiders daily. Many of these sites are over 6 years old. Each site is made up of only UNIQUE content, and none of it is “spun”. The users create it, and after approval – it’s posted.

* Build Authority for ANY Page on Your Site. This is a huge benefit with LV that provides a massive edge on your competitors in practically ANY market. Getting EACH of your site’s profitable pages (product reviews, etc.) ranked highly is easy when you can literally blast an unlimited number of high-value backlinks with your desired keyword anchor at each specific page.

* Zero SEO Risk. If you don’t want to risk the potential discounting of links or perhaps a domain that get discovered in a 3-way scheme by SE algorithms, then LV is the way to go. The only thing you’ll ever see as a result of using LinkVana effectively is an increase in SE presence. (The built-in posting delay prevents mass-link postings from being published in close proximity, so as to appear natural).

* Links Can Be More Natural, More “Authentic”. This depends on your own posts within the LinkVana network, but it gives you the option of literally using as many keyword variations (and landing page variations) as you want, resulting in a much more natural-looking backlink pattern for your site, from in-context links no less. This will result in the building of a rock-solid ranking foundation in practically any niche.

* 300 Member Cap is a GOOD Thing. This basically assures you that you’ll be up against anywhere from little to ZERO competition within the LinkVana network itself for your niche keyword targets.

Check Out How LinkVana Works Exactly >>

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3WayLinks Weak Points:

* Limited Links Per Domain. Only 250 links can be acquired for each domain, which are made up of a variety of 3 different keywords as the link text. Also, only the root domain (home page) can receive links. LinkVana supports unlimited backlinks, unlimited keyword variety and ANY page of your site can acquire one-way links.

* Your Site Must Link to Other Participants. In exchange for automatic non-recip link building, your site needs to “give in order to receive”, in the way of links out to other pre-approved member sites in the 3WL network. This can result in pagerank leak, which may lead to lower rankings than other sites competing with you that have a similar backlink foundation, but with less outlinks.

* Only 50 Domains Per Account. 3WL only allows 50 domains (under PR4) per account. Sites whose homepage have a PageRank of 4 or higher don’t count against the quota. Adversely, LinkVana allows unlimited projects to be created.

* Google Can Allegedly “See” 3-Way Links. I’ve done research on this, and the general consensus among respected professionals in the SEO industry is that Google can spot 3-way links. I have no idea how, but technological advances in search algos is beyond my understanding, so I’d definitely say that a 3-way footprint “may” be visible. Though your site won’t be banned for participation, the more likely scenario is that the links obtained from the network may at some point be nullified in terms of SE value.

(But still, this only makes it a shorter-term strategy at worst, because it works very well at the moment, which can still be used for list-building, sales, profit, propogating authority sites, etc.)

LinkVana Weak Points:

* Links Are Self-Created, Not Automatic. Unlike 3WL, LinkVana is sort of like a priveledged publishing arrangement, rather than an automatic script that creates gradual backlinks for you on auto-pilot. Work or outsourcing is required. Each post can take up to 3 or 5 minutes to create.

* It’s Not a Forgiving Membership Fee. This is sort of a “good” barrier to entry for existing members, because it protects the network of sites from idiots with crap sites who are happy to generate a few bucks a month from each site. This means that members will lean towards creating quality posts, to quality sites, which will then get quality rankings. Still $147/mo. is definitely not chump-change.

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So What’s the Verdict?

As you can see, LinkVana is the more powerful of the two options, with its flexibility, no-risk rankings and unlimited, true one-way links (to any page on your site).

However, at $147/mo. (currently), it’s definitely not an impulse decision. You need to be very comfortable with SEO, keyword research and understanding how Google, Yahoo and MSN “tick” in order to get the biggest bang for your buck with LinkVana.

Much like full-scale graphics editors like Adobe Photoshop – LinkVana is very powerful, but only in the right hands. It’s also expensive, and that’s the trade-off. It’s not for everyone. And it’s not necessarily for every site, either…

3WayLinks is currently an awesome tool for getting hands-off rankings for mini-sites, small review sites and small content sites whose purpose is to act as a “kindling” site, which will eventually link to your:

* Authority site(s)

* Product(s)

And so on.

So to be honest, the best possible option here is to do what I’m doing – subscribing to both services and playing them each to their strengths for maximum search engine penetration.

I use 3WL to build passive, effective backlinks (and rankings) for my mini-sites and small review sites that will pump out consistent profits (when the traffic hits), while eventually serving as feeders for my authority sites and products.

I use LinkVana to generate authority for each page that I want to get ranked for its target keyword – especially specific product review pages. It’s not uncommon for product-review pages to convert at anywhere from 5% to 10% of COLD search traffic, so even a small amount of search traffic can be VERY profitable.

I also use LV to give me an edge overall with ranking for the major search terms, especially for authority sites or product sites. This, in combination with articles, directory submissions, press releases, bookmarking, and natural organic voluntary links from other sites (based on site usefulness or news-worthiness) leads to a very effective and agressive SEO strategy that leaves many of my competitors dumbfounded.

LinkVana Homepage >>

3WayLinks Homepage >>

What Should You Do?

If you’re new to the game and want to improve your current rankings for an existing small affiliate site (or a few sites), then 3WayLinks is a no-brainer for you. It will improve your rankings if you choose the right types of keyword targets. It’s been very effective for doing so with several of my own, small, 10 to 30 page mini-sites.

That’s where it really shines – especially because it’s automatic. It’s perfect for a network of mini-sites where you can simply get the site created, plug it into 3WL, submit a few articles and directory submissions, and then move on to the next site…

If you’re at the stage where you’re building authority-sites that have content worth linking to and a proven profit model in your niche, than LinkVana is going to stretch your dollars alot further (if you put in the effort). It’s a MAJOR shortcut, making it easy to acquire the hardest possible variable in off-site SEO:

True, contextual, one-way links from established sites.

You can literally build thousands of one-way links for any white-hat, quality site, and any PAGE on that site. And unlike article submission, each link is “unique”. (It’s not stuck in a byline that’s identical to the other 950 sites that published your latest submission…)

Closing Words…

Both 3WayLinks and LinkVana are very effective, representing a major shortcut in time and effort for anyone who knows first-hand the almost unlimited amount of traffic (and profit) that can be extracted, for free, from the most-popular starting points on the internet itself: Google, Yahoo and MSN.

If you’re brand-spanking new to all of this and still have to maneuver your way around the basics of website creation and keyword research – neither of these will make sense for you at the moment. Get your first site live, and use article marketing to get things going at first. (It takes awhile, but it’s free and it does work – but it also requires a LOT of work).

If you have a few sites, but want better rankings that get “some” results – but don’t have much money to spare – then seriously consider 3WayLinks. It’s an easy, automatic way to get ranked for most “mediumly-competitive” keywords rather easily. It usually takes about 2 to 3 months to see results.

If you know the game well, then you’ll already see the major ROI potential with LinkVana, and you don’t need my critique to make your own final conclusion.

Here’s to conquering the search engines, one site at a time :-)

All the best,

Chris Rempel

Tags: Product Reviews

78 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Brett // Jan 28, 2008 at 6:15 pm

    Chris,

    I emailed you this question but I will post it here as well. When I submit my articles to article directories like ezines, etc…How many links to my website do I include in them?

    -Also, should I have the links go to my main page that has both the links for the reviews and articles….OR…should I have all my articles link to a specific PRODUCT page?

    I guess I’m just confused as to where I link to. Am I linking to the main homepage of my minisite that lists the reviews and articles or should I be linking specifically to a product page?

    Thanks for your time.

    Brett

  • 2 John // Jan 29, 2008 at 11:40 am

    “How does Google spot 3 way links?” Here is my opinion…

    A -> B -> C -> A

    If I use 3WL, my site A will gradually link up to 250 other B sites, right? If so, Google may check where each of the B sites link to and found other C sites. Then Google may check if each of the C sites links back to my site A. Make sense?

    It’s a complicated and time-consuming task but I think Google will eventually create another “department” or “super machine” with formula that analyzes if your site uses 3-to-10 way links. :)

  • 3 auctarb // Jan 29, 2008 at 8:52 pm

    Hey Chris:

    A little off-the-wall from this post but I got baffled on the html-to-exe (including from your WSO PLR). I made a chronological program but the convertor only does the 1st page – can’t link between pages using this application I downloaded (maybe cause it’s a freebie (shareware)). Is the actual plan to just .exe the first page and then link out to an actual website for the remainder of the application? Thanks!

  • 4 Matt // Jan 30, 2008 at 5:17 am

    Nice comparison Chris,

    I’m still wondering how Google can “see” 3 way links thought. I’m Alpha testing Jon’s new 1000 link system and this could be real powerful stuff.

    I’m just wavering over Linkvana – sounds like a good service but I know I’ll soon get bored of writing these “snippets”, hmmmmm…..

  • 5 Hayley // Jan 30, 2008 at 7:01 pm

    I checked out some of the sites that were linked to me via 3 way links and some of them were kind of scary looking. I’m talking spammy looking sites. Now, I know they aren’t ALL like that, but I was having some doubts.

    I picked up a linkvana subscription and I have been having phenomenal success so far. It’s hard to tell definitively, because I don’t have hard data, but I’m killing it in terms of long tail search phrases.

    I am also able to spike my rankings quickly with things like Digg submissions, then “Shore it up” with a bunch of linkvana posts so my rankings don’t slip.

  • 6 admin // Jan 31, 2008 at 9:41 am

    Brett,

    When you submit articles, you can only have links in your author bio. I usually just link to one or at the most two pages in the bio.

    Have some articles link to the home page (most of them), and have a few other submissions focus on pages like product reviews, etc.

    -Chris

  • 7 admin // Jan 31, 2008 at 9:42 am

    Auctarb,

    The ones I’ve seen are simply a fancy self-contained browser. I’m not sure which program you’re using…

    -Chris

  • 8 admin // Jan 31, 2008 at 9:49 am

    Matt,

    What matters most are the results.

    LinkVana is set up for maximum “link punch”, because you’re not required to reciprocate links to other sites in the network. Also, the links to your page are included in-context on a unique blog post.

    LV is also very effective at targeting individual pages of your site for indexing, ranking and traffic.

    Remember that you can outsource each “snippet” for $2/post from within your account area. That’s roughly $2 per permanent one-way link.

    Even factoring in your membership fee, that’s still tremendous value for money.

    Again, 3WL is perfect for the “kindling” sites, really. That’s where it shines, and the price isn’t as steep as LV.

    LV is more effective, there’s zero whatsoever, but there’s more cost involved.

    (Even though in comparison to straight-out buying links, it is a major bargain.)

    Thanks,

    -Chris

  • 9 admin // Jan 31, 2008 at 9:56 am

    Hayley,

    I can see your concern, but one thing that’s re-assuring are the steps that Jon has taken to ensure the security of the network.

    Each site is reviewed before approval, and the system checks to see if Google’s indexing all sites daily – so if there’s any “bad apples”, they’ll get dropped immediately.

    (When Google bans a site, it literally won’t show up in G’s search results at all, and PR will be gray)

    But still – as you’re seeing first hand, LinkVana is a more straight-forward solution with zero invulnerabilities in terms of your own domains being connected to a network of some kind.

    I really see 3WL as being a shining light for the mini-site approach, while LV is perfect for initially “juicing” authority sites, and specific pages on those sites.

    They both work well, but as always – you get what you pay for.

    -Chris

    P.S. Remember that sites which link to yours can only have a positive effect, or at worst, no effect, on your rankings.

    You’re *only* at risk when you start linking out to other sites from your domain, and only if those sites are in what’s called a “bad neighborhood”.

  • 10 auctarb // Jan 31, 2008 at 12:27 pm

    Chris

    I used the first one in the results for “html to exe”: WebSiteZip Packer. The application I made is a 6 page site where the last page (after completing the sequence in the appication) links to the affil. The Packer makes the self contained browser with the 1st page in it, but the link on that page will not link to page 2 within the application from within the browser (in other words, the browser only included page 1 in the EXE, not all of them). What has to be done for the application to work now is 1) download the exe, 2) open it (which is page 1 of the application), 3) link to page 2 which now goes to a regular web page, 4) continue with the application – which are all web pages now.

    I have downloaded exe’s before where links go to other pages within the exe without actually going out to the web. That’s what I thought would happen here, but maybe only a paid convertor will do that. Anyhow, I’m complicating this too much, FI, I’m launching the exe as is today. BTW, why didn’t you affil with promosoft within Confessions? I’d like to have seen that 20% go your way – Thanks!

  • 11 Kurt // Jan 31, 2008 at 2:38 pm

    Chris,

    I have been a member of LV for 6 weeks. During that time I created snippets for a new site. I only used LV with this site.
    Unfortunately I have never seen any link appear when I checked link popularity in different search engines. That made me decide to cancel. I also use another similar program and here I did see links appear.
    Was I wrong to cancel? Why couldn’t I see any links? If I don’t see links, does that mean that they are not counted by the SE?

  • 12 Edu // Jan 31, 2008 at 5:27 pm

    Thanks Chris, I’m new to 3 way links, but I can not send to approval until my 1st minisite is indexed. I just hate google when they take time to do it. I’m actualy using digg, delicious, squidoo and zimbio to help google to index it asap, I cannot wait to see the results if any.

  • 13 terry // Jan 31, 2008 at 10:06 pm

    Hi Chris,

    Excelent post like usual. I an using a three way link program for some of my sites and so far good results.

    Terry

  • 14 Corky Devendorf // Feb 1, 2008 at 9:39 am

    Would be interested in your thoughts on Trackback Spider. They are $97 per month and post to forums that rank well in your KW. Can be automatic or manually done and the potential number of links is unlimited.
    I suppose that is just 3 of many competitive services.

    Thanks,
    Corky

  • 15 SEO Mindset // Feb 1, 2008 at 10:26 am

    I use 3WL for my sites and it has really made a huge difference. I’m eagerly awaiting the beta-test that Leger has in store for us. You mentioned it earlier in your post… Jon didn’t happen to give you a timeline for when we should expect it, did he?

  • 16 admin // Feb 2, 2008 at 12:13 pm

    Auctarb – you kinda lost me there, but regardless, I recommend going with something that’s easiest for the end-user. I’m really finding that simple toolbars are a better way to go, because it’s more straight-forward (everyone knows what they’re getting), and the residual traffic lasts a little longer per downloaded, resulting in more traffic for your effort.

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    Kurt – Search engines are slow. You can’t really expect to see results in a matter of weeks – it takes a few months. Also, it depends on HOW you were searching for your backlinks, and with which SE.

    Google is actually notorious for displaying far LESS linking info for domains than other engines like Yahoo’s “site search”.

    I’m afraid to say that you cancelled too early. SEO is about long-term results. In this sense, the time involved is how you “pay” for a long string of free traffic to follow…

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    Edu – Again, time is key. You can’t expect the SE’s to magically index your brand-new domains as fast as YOU want them indexed. Over time, and as your domain ages and gains link popularity, every new article or page you add will equate to new rankings for you – but it’s the beginning stages where it SEEMS like “nothing” is happening.

    The reality is that building natural one-way links to a domain that’s decently optimized will ALWAYS get indexed and eventually ranked for its target keywords.

    How high it ranks and how much traffic those rankings equate to depend mostly on the keywords you choose to target.

    Go for long-tail phrases at first, with medium to low competition. If you want a good guide on doing this (for free), check out Travis’ “Bum Marketing” explaination at http://www.bummarketingmethod.com

    Apply this knowledge to building each page on your sites.

    And if you’re already part of 3WayLinks, then read Jonathan’s starter guide – it’s crucial information!

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    Terry – glad to hear it!

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    Corky – Not a clue, haven’t even heard about it. I’ll check it out though, sounds like it caters to lazy bastards, so naturally, I’m in the target market… :-)

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    SEO Mindset – No, not yet. I am also very excited about this, and I’ve got some keywords lined up with some “1000-links” names on them :-)

    Thanks guys,

    -Chris

    P.S. My responses have been slow lately because since I arrived in England for my remaining week in Europe before returning to Canada, my primary laptop kicked the bucket (hard drive failure).

    So I’m using internet cafe’s, etc. to try and keep the ship sailing until I get back home.

    Hint: Backup your stuff often. It really does pay off. Trust me…

  • 17 Roy Sencio // Feb 3, 2008 at 1:20 am

    Great review… I am just wondering however if the links in LV are permanent, I mean.. when the time comes that you cancel your account, will all of your submitted posts on all these other blogs be removed or deleted?

  • 18 Hayley // Feb 3, 2008 at 1:39 am

    If you want to find your LinkVana links, just google the title of the posts you make in quotes. This is much easier if your post titles are a bit unique.

    Google indexes the LinkVana links pretty much in the same day.

    Chris, one excellent thing about LinkVana that gives it a better value over 3waylinks in my opinion is that if you have to cancel for whatever reasons (or if paypal is an idiot and locks up on you) and you lose your subscription, your links don’t go away like they do with 3WL. If you cancel your 3WL subscription for any reason you lose your links and that really sucks.

  • 19 admin // Feb 3, 2008 at 7:11 am

    Roy, looks like Hayley beat me to it :-)

    It wouldn’t make sense for LV to deplete its own content on their blog network, even after you cancel.

    I can’t speak for them directly, but I can’t see any reason why your posts would be removed if for some crazy reason you decided to cancel :-)

    Cheers,

    -Chris

  • 20 James // Feb 3, 2008 at 8:33 am

    I actually cancelled LV because I “lost faith”. About a month later, I regained faith and joined up again with the same Paypal address.

    I didn’t get a welcome email and was just about to contact support when I realised that maybe my account was still there. I tried logging in and there it was!

    All my projects and affiliate data still intact. Not to mention all my posts still in the network :)

  • 21 Hayley // Feb 3, 2008 at 2:09 pm

    Haha, I think Roy posted that as I was writing my post. That worked out well.

    Just to ammend my comment before: Google indexes the LinkVana POSTS very quickly. I am not 100% sure if they will add your LV links to your “inbound links” tally right away. That could take a while. Google is notoriously slow and I don’t think they even show all the results that they ACTUALLY have.

    However, I still believe that the posts send their link juice to your site and help tremendously.

    PS~~~ And this is REALLY cool:

    Did you guys know that you can set up projects for Squidoo.com, Zimbio.com, Hubpages.com, etc, and build LinkVana links for those pages? This can do WONDERS for your overall “mini-web” of backlinks.

    You CANNOT use 3WL to build up backlinks for those types of pages. You are able to do it with 3WL.

    Just a caution: if you do this, your Squidoos and Hubpages better not be spammy or we might lose the ability to do this.

  • 22 Sami // Feb 4, 2008 at 1:40 pm

    Hey Chris

    That was an excellent in depth review. Thank you for that.

    I was familair with 3WL but didn’t know about LinkVana – I think they could have chosen a better name but can’t fault them for their system.

    I think like any marketing yo uneed a “marketing mix” as they say in traditional marketing circles.

    You cannot afford to have just one route to the market because you never know what happens next AND you never which performs best at different times.

    I therefore agreee that using both 3WL and LinkVana + the use of the new social media sites (Squidoo, HubPages, etc) + a good systematic plan + a generous amount of patience will work really well.

    I have a bunch of posts on the social media sites and they work really well. Using LinkVana with these posts would just turbo charge the whole thing.

    Thanks again for the info.

    Sami

  • 23 jlingk // Feb 8, 2008 at 12:07 pm

    You should really talk to Jerry West, the SEO King about 3 Way Links. He has demonstrated how easy it is to detect this structure and that Google already has the ability to recognize them.

  • 24 admin // Feb 8, 2008 at 12:20 pm

    Jlingk,

    Google very likely can see them.

    Which is why I recommend 3WL for your network(s) of mini-sites. Not your bread-and-butter authority sites.

    You won’t get penalized – even if Google does “clamp down” on 3WayLinks. They’ll just discount or cancel the link values.

    However, it’s a “risk” I’m willing to take for my kindling sites, because currently, it works really well.

    It’s the closest thing you’ll come to automated, hands-off and effortless link-building.

    So, why not?

    Use it to get traffic from your mini-sites while you focus on building your long-term assets like authority content sites and products.

    -Chris

  • 25 Big John // Feb 17, 2008 at 11:45 am

    I recently enrolled in Linkvana’s service. Since some of you have been using this service for a while, I would like to get clarification on the STRATEGY I should be employing so as to maximize my linking efforts. I will be using large, established sites, not mini-sites, so I have thousands of pages, but only a few domains. Thanks in advance for any and all responses.

    1. Is there a RECOMMENDED number of times that a link should be submitted per day, week, month?

    For example, let’s take an established site with 100 pages – I want to post links for all 100 pages – should the index page be posted more often than other pages?

    Or is it as simple as pages that I want to get maximum exposure be posted more often?

    Is there a “magic” number of posts per week, month, etc? I have no idea how many times to post my pages.

    2. Just to clarify – Since there is a 6 post daily limit for each domain, one domain could only get a maximum of 6 pages posted daily, whether that be the same page six times with different post content, or any combination of 6 pages from one domain, correct?

    3. Does any significant traffic come from people reading the blogs themselves and clicking through the posts? Are the posts also indexed by the search engines?

    4. Posting one’s Squidoo pages (or other social media pages) is a great tip. Any other strategies, tips or secrets?

  • 26 admin // Feb 17, 2008 at 3:25 pm

    Big John,

    1. Not that I know of. There’s no set “rule” or anything. As long as it’s not a definite pattern, you’re alright.

    2. I’d say that sounds right – you’d have to ask Dave, though, to be sure.

    3. Doubtful. The idea is to benefit from the contextual links from a variety of sources to BOOST your OWN sites, pages, etc. in terms of one-way link popularity.

    4. Create great content that others would naturally want to link to within your niche. That way, exposure will truly equal links, in time.

    -Chris

  • 27 Big John // Feb 17, 2008 at 3:35 pm

    Thanks Chris.

  • 28 scott // Feb 23, 2008 at 6:10 pm

    I can get anyone in the top 10. My service is closer to linkvana than 3wl except we have a multi-million dollar platform with over 3000 sites most of which are 10 years old and have high pr with unique content added daily spread across 2200 different servers. It’s 297.00 a month with a free thirty day trial so you can see for yourself before you pay anything. Like Chris mentioned in his review about linkvana, it’s not for adsense site builders or affiliate marketers. You get what you pay for and we try to keep the rift raft out to keep the integrity of our sites and servers sound. I normally don’t promote it shamelessly but I just bought the ebook from Chris for my daughter and it is on topic for this post.

  • 29 Jim // Mar 3, 2008 at 12:45 am

    Someone asked how can Google find 3WL sites. All it takes is for one or two competitors to complain to Google about one of the sites in the network.

    Or it could work really well and Google starts to see some junk sites creeping into top positions and starts to investigate.

    In either case then Google starts checking on the site(s) in question and crawls all of the inbound links and then does the same thing on each site at the end of each inbound link repeating this process until all links are found.

    The facts is that they have all of the links already in their index. They probably have special in-house software that searches their index looking for linking patterns.

    They are able to crawl and index 10 billion pages performing incredibly complex link analysis, so finding all or most 3WL sites would be trivial for them if they started looking.

    When they figure out that each site actually hosts the PHP link script that makes the linking possible they know that the webmaster is involved. That being the case they will probably flag the site as spam. At that point it is history.

    When that happens the site is useless as far as SEO goes, you could get a new site ranked faster than reviving one that has been flagged.

    I was a member of 3WL and cancelled my subscription. It is 90% spammy AdSense junk sites. Every link is off-theme and links always point to the homepage, no deep linking.

    My personal opinion is that if you have sites that you do not mind sacrificing, go ahead but be careful about using 3WL with a site you cannot afford to lose.

    3WL attempts to be the magic bullet that everyone is looking for, but we know magic bullets do not exist, don’t we?

  • 30 admin // Mar 3, 2008 at 11:02 pm

    Hi Jim,

    I agree with most of your outlook on 3WL (it’s certainly not a replacement for proper linking methods).

    However, currently, for the mini-site market “kindling” strategy, 3WL is awesome.

    It really does work.

    But, like anything, this is a tactic that is “gray hat”, and should only be used in accordance with your own risk-acceptance factor.

    But believe me, it’s the closest thing going to hands-off SEO rankings, and you can’t beat the price for 250 one-way links per domain.

    It’s not for authority sites.

    And if it stops working – then unsubscribe.

    It’s that simple.

    -Chris

  • 31 Alasdair // Mar 15, 2008 at 1:43 am

    One glaring weakness with LinVana is it would be pretty easy for Google to get an employee inside as a member and then follow where the snippets show up. Over time, they’d be able to sniff out most of the network.

    I may be paranoid, but I’d guess that Google has entire departments looking out for services like this.

    Make hay while the sun shines!

  • 32 Austin // Mar 19, 2008 at 7:29 pm

    Thanks Jim for an in-depth unbiased report.

    I’ve used 3WL with varying success. Some sites remained strong in the SERPs whilst others completely disappeared.

    As for footprints – well besides links pages that all have the same line breaks it doesn’t help that 3WL has the *same* main links at the top of the first page i.e. Jon L’s own sites such as IAW.

    Jon L has done some incredible work though and knows his stuff but ultimately I feel is a marketer with a product he can sell.

    Gotta hand it to him for his motivation – I have a 5WL system sitting on a hard drive with some more advanced features that would make it harder for Google to spot but I haven’t got it together yet to package it up.

    Hopefully one day soon :)

  • 33 admin // Mar 19, 2008 at 7:34 pm

    Hi Austin,

    Thanks for your input.

    I’ve also seen varying ranking changes, but then it doesn’t make sense that some sites get bounced while others don’t – you’d think G would devalue all of the footprints if it was going to.

    What it comes down to is that it needs to be part of a larger strategy.

    I use 3WL only for feeder sites and mini-sites at the moment. I use LinkVana and natural link campaigns for any and all authority sites.

    -Chris

  • 34 Len // Apr 17, 2008 at 10:27 pm

    I have been using LinkVana for over three months now and am unhappy with the results. Here’s why.

    I have written about 40 original 250-word blog posts for each of the sites I am promoting and published across LV. None of them show up when I use SEO elite to establish what backlinks my sites have. When I search for those posts with Google Ifind them on LOW PR sites that cater for a broad range of topics, and most of them use a structure that gives a URL like this:
    domain.com/home/my-post-title (Would the repeated use of ‘home’ be a giveaway to Google?)

    I also find some of them scrapped onto porn sites, but I guess that will happen whatever system I use.

    I’m close to switching to Link Kahuna. Anyone got any thoughts about my LV experience? Or know anything Link Kahuna?

    Thanks,
    Len

  • 35 admin // Apr 17, 2008 at 10:46 pm

    Hi Len,

    What about your actual rankings for the keywords you’ve been targeting?

    I’ve done some research on many of my posts as well, and it’s always been categorized well on a blog by blog basis.

    Also, of the posts I researched, none had the folder “home” in the URL string.

    As for the porn sites… that must be an external feeder. A lot of those sites just grab content from absolutely anything they can, which would include some of the LV network sites.

    I actually get the odd “pingbacks” from spam blogs – a few of which are porn – that copy my RSS feeds from THIS blog, strangely enough.

    I’ve always found that my sites pages do get ranked though eventually – some quicker than others.

    But I’m targeting longtail phrases.

    -Chris

  • 36 Fred // Apr 19, 2008 at 6:31 am

    I am very interested in trying Linkvana but i have one concern… I looked on the warrior forum for testimonials, and some warriors seem to say that pas the 80th post, things seems to slow down at linkvana….is that true?….

    They say that past 80 post for the same project, the post goes out ver slowly….

    What is your opinion on the subject?

    - Fred

  • 37 admin // Apr 19, 2008 at 1:40 pm

    Hi Fred,

    Those are isolated cases. That’s happened to me ONCE – and then a few days afterwards, the links continued until my queued posts were all live.

    Since then, there have been numerous instances where I’ve purchased 100+ posts for a given project, and they’ve all been sequentially queued and activated.

    Why has that happened to some people?

    It could be something structural. Remember that LinkVana is built on a system where users are allowed to access different CLUSTERS of unique domains and sites.

    If one network is especially busy, then perhaps the users attached to it will notice that it takes longer for their posts to be properly reassigned to another network.

    This is speculation, but may account for the small handful of instances like this.

    -Chris

  • 38 Super Successful Secrets // Apr 28, 2008 at 5:56 pm

    Here’s a strategy I use with Link Vana, which I think some of you will like who use it.

    Since I write my own posts, I will actually outline a FAQ article on whatever my keywords are.

    For example, let’s say I wanted to rank for “Search Engine Optimization SEO”. I would outline 6-10 questions for this article and then write 100 word answers for each. I then submit these to Link Vana as 100 word blurbs and then combine 6 – 10 of those 100 word blurbs into an article for ezine articles or Squidoo.

    This way you can boost your SEO and traffic benefit as Google isn’t going to realize your article is made up of 6-10 100 word blog posts on different IP addresses.

    Any comments?

  • 39 Peter K // Apr 30, 2008 at 4:09 am

    Chris,

    In your ebook, you gave an example of 20 ideal keywords to structure the content of the mini-site.

    With 3WL, you can only have 3 keywords variations. How would you go about selecting 3 from your example 20 ideal keywords? (or is it from 20 + 7?)

    Best

  • 40 Sami // Apr 30, 2008 at 3:05 pm

    Hi Super Successful Secrets

    What you are doing is “repurposing content” and the way you’r edoing it is one of the best ways there is. Anyone reading your comment should always keep in mind repurposing to get the maximum returns on their writing effort.

    Another great way to repurpose is to simply read your content into your computer. Save the recording as a free downloadable MP3 audio and publicise it (using a tool) on all PODcast directories. Typically audio and video are highly favoured by Google at the moment.

    Chris – you recently posted a video case study of your results from LinkVana. PLease can you clarify …

    1- You mentioned you did only a few posts per day. Did you use LV’s “humanize” option which auto posts between 1 and 6 (!) posts/day or did you set the number yourself, if so which?

    2- In this blog post and your comments you have made many references to the long term nature of LV and SEO generally. Please can you clarify how the case study talks about (great) results in 2 weeks for a new domain?

    Many thanks for an excellent post.
    Sami

  • 41 Alan (working on new baby help product) // May 26, 2008 at 8:08 am

    Why is everyone so amazed at the thought that Google could discover three-way links? Google has very powerful computers that can search through its databases very quickly. Looking for three-way links would be a pretty simple job, IF they were bothered to do so.

    There’s nothing clever or mysterious about it, it’s yet another piece of analysis that they could do if they wanted. Not a question of “can they do it?” but more a question of “would they do it, and if so, when?”

  • 42 Alan (working on new baby help product) // May 26, 2008 at 8:09 am

    P.S. Forgot to add, there are a lot of other linking networks around, not just 3WL and LinkVana. Do a search for “3 way links” or “1 way links” and you’ll see. If you are going down this route, don’t restrict yourself to just these two.

  • 43 John // Jun 4, 2008 at 8:55 pm

    Has anyone tried unique article wizard? Like most they claim they can build rank and links in no-time.
    Just curious to see if anyone has had any success with them.

    Thanks

    John

  • 44 admin // Jun 8, 2008 at 4:37 pm

    Hi John,

    Haven’t tried it yet.

    I might give it a shot actually…

    -Chris

  • 45 John // Jun 9, 2008 at 8:12 am

    Hey Chris,

    Thanks for the reply. When I get
    some results from using Unique Article Wizard
    I’ll post back.

    John

  • 46 Puneet Aggarwal // Jun 17, 2008 at 6:35 am

    Chris, I tried to subscribe to 3WayLinks, but they threw me out claiming that mine was a “faith-based” site. How can I check if Linkvana would do the same before I pay them. Are there any such similar sites besides these two ?

  • 47 admin // Jun 17, 2008 at 9:59 am

    Hi Puneet,

    LinkVana allows any non-spam, white-hat site that isn’t about porn, casino stuff or illegal content.

    The reason 3WL has that policy is because some members might have some serious reservations about having their site(s) linking out to religious content that they don’t agree with.

    I find it weird that they don’t allow sites about yoga or other very-loosely-connected topics to religion such as personal development, etc.

    But, it’s their network, I guess.

    -Chris

  • 48 sarah staar // Jul 25, 2008 at 1:01 pm

    I signed up to link vana after your advice yesterday.
    If i sign up to 3waylinks as well will i have too many links per day being generated?

    I don’t want to get sandboxed by google

  • 49 admin // Jul 25, 2008 at 10:18 pm

    Hi Sarah

    Not necessarily.

    I’ve used both simultaneously and exclusively – either way, it works.

    3WL is automated and that’s the appeal.

    LV is entirely “safe” and there’s no chance that you can get penalized by a Google reviewer should that occur (not likely anyway), since it’s not connected to your site.

    My advice is to use LV on all your sites and 3WL on your mini-sites for testing markets.

    Cheers,

    -Chris

  • 50 Flowie // Jul 27, 2008 at 2:46 am

    Do perhaps know if this is allowed for both services.

    Committing to any monthly amount can be diificult. Can one pool some friends to make cost less for each one?

    Thanks
    Flowie

  • 51 Steve Henderson // Jul 27, 2008 at 10:53 pm

    I’ve used 3WL since beta and it works consistently. Those who don’t get good results have almost invariably made inappropriate key-phrase/niche selections.

    Mid-tail key-phrases in mildly competitive markets get modest traffic on 250 links from PR0-PR3 sites (mainly) but you are never going to make page 1 in a competitive niche with that link volume and quality (unaided).

    3WL has an excellent article on keyword selection in the site instructions. It’s essential reading.

    I used LinkVarna in the early days before they introduced the snippet authoring service. I swiftly found the effort to author the posts unsustainable.

    LV generated links fast and reliably (and Google indexed them too) but I couldn’t convert and add value to the traffic sufficiently to justify the effort and cost.

    Frankly, I still have my doubts about LV’s ability to sustain competent authoring at acceptable cost. Maybe that’s a reason for capping membership at such a low figure as 300?

    Ironically, the main strength of both solutions is that they are so modest in their ambitions and footprint. LV and 3WL are well engineered and cautiously administered to make investigation non-trivial.

    So they are not anti-social editorially and a few hundred links here or there is tiiny, tiny beer to Big G. Google has much bigger fish to fry with clickfraud; MFA splognets; pharm+gambling spam; RSS scraping/recycling – all on a massive scale.

    I noticed a bragging comment above from an affiliate of a “powerful” private link source and recognized the statistics quoted. Such “Power” link services are only suitable for well established sites with decent quality ratings already.

    Anyone turning a fire-hose of of high PR links on to a new IM site will find it sand-boxed in a flash. I lost several large, high quality, content sites to the sandbox overnight from impatient use of “power” linking – and the pain still throbs. Money can’t buy patience and the passage of time in SEO.

    The secret of link-building is the sustained trickle – and for different reasons, both 3WL and LV are ideal for that. Neither 3WL or LV are big or powerful enough to get anyone into trouble. And long may it remain.

    If you really need quick results, just buy PPC traffic. There’s a good case for that anyway to prove and tune a site quickly . Focuses the mind and assembles statistically significant test data on demand.

  • 52 Ken // Aug 23, 2008 at 3:57 pm

    I’ve avoided 2.0 as long as I could (to my detriment).

    So I want to make sure I’m clear on this-
    Let’s say I have a site – http://www.mysite.com
    with the following pages-
    http://www.mysite.com/page1.html
    http://www.mysite.com/page2.html
    http://www.mysite.com/page3.html
    etc…

    Does every single keyword –
    on every single page –
    have to have a “unique submission” for “every single” blog its submitted to?

    And if so, how do I indicate the number of submissions I want?
    (Sounds like a lot of work. ;-0)

    Thanks
    Ken

  • 53 Ken // Aug 23, 2008 at 4:04 pm

    I just signed up (and similar to Sarah) wish they weren’t so restrictive / judgemental on eligible sites.
    i.e.-
    Q. What is the difference between a professional trader and a professional gambler?
    A. Very little. ;-)

    Anyway, what I’m wondering about is this -
    In your Confessions (great book), and the VIP Essentials you mention the cross-pollinating effect of initial mini-sites and mother sites, etc…

    But wouldn’t linking these sites to each other be a possible source of google slap unless you had a bigger hosting package that allows different C-Names / IP addresses?

    Thanks,
    Ken

  • 54 marty // Sep 11, 2008 at 10:48 am

    Do you happen to know what the “humanize” option is? Which send post option do u use?

  • 55 admin // Sep 11, 2008 at 12:18 pm

    Hi Marty,

    I actually don’t know myself. I was wondering that the other day…

    My guess is that it would be random.

    I usually use the 2-3 posts per day option.

    @Ken, re: cross-pollenation.

    If all your links come from the same C-Class, then yes, it’s an issue. But there’s nothing wrong with linking out to other sites.

    That’s a natural action.

    Also, what I talk about when I say having your mini-sites feed into an authority site is more about actual traffic and population.

    Building lists, gaining natural exposure and so on.

    @Steve – great points.

    @Flowie – I would say no. However, check out my creative approach to using LinkVana “for free” here:

    http://www.thelazymarketer.com/flash/700in2weeks.html

    Cheers

    -Chris

  • 56 Rusty - Fitness Black Book // Sep 13, 2008 at 9:14 pm

    So with linkvana you are only writing a small snippet, not a 500-800 word post? That sounds really time efficient. I am currently writing 500-600 word articles and posting on ezine articles, but that takes about an hour per article.

    I have heard great things about Unique Article Wizard as well (someone mentioned it above). If you decide to give it a shot, will you review it for us? I trust your judgement on this stuff.

  • 57 Keith Barnett // Sep 23, 2008 at 10:43 pm

    Hi Chris,

    How do you feel about Jon Leger’s new 1 Way Links system that has just came about? I know how strongly you feel about Linkvana and it’s features. Just wondering your thoughts on this and if you will be adding it to our mix of gaining backlinks.

    Thanks,

    Keith

  • 58 Jeff // Oct 7, 2008 at 3:46 am

    Hey Chris:

    How many Linkvana posts do you recommend that I/we do for each site?

    Also, I have targeted keywords and written Linkvana posts for each page on my site with that keyword in anchor text. Is this a good strategy?

  • 59 Rhonda Morin // Oct 19, 2008 at 10:20 am

    Hi Chris,

    I have used 3 Way Links since it was started. I got scared right when it came out and I pulled my site off the service. Then I added it back and it has kicked my site in the butt! I have been on page 1 usually in the top 3 spots for a keyword that gets 50K searches a day. It increased my revenue by 50% and helped keep it steady.

    I tried LinkVana when it first came out but I could never get the posts in to make it worth while. Now I look at it that I might go back and use it to add snippits of articles and link to the articles within my site.

    I think the point of marketing a site is that you do a little of lots of things. Why put all your eggs in the 3WL basket because if that gets flushed you are done. If you only do LinkVana and you can’t afford it or you don’t use, like me, it’s a waste too. Doing a little of a few or a lot of things is best, I believe.

    Thanks for the post, hope I am not too late in the posting to this information.

    Rhonda Morin

  • 60 Gregg // Dec 4, 2008 at 12:28 am

    Hi Chris,

    An interesting review. I’m in the process of setting up sites as per the MSN Loophole. Do you have any advice regarding 3WL or LinkVana as relates specifically to the MSN Loophole?

    Thanks in advance,

    Gregg

  • 61 chich // Dec 12, 2008 at 3:41 pm

    I am trying out Traffic Kahuna – it seems to offer the combination of 3WL and Linkvana. Anyone else have any experience with this?

  • 62 Before You Buy // Feb 19, 2009 at 5:14 pm

    How would you setup Linkvana for a site like mine http://www.beforeyoubuyreport.com? I am following your report and trying to get traffic to it now.

  • 63 Discount Coupons // Feb 24, 2009 at 4:44 pm

    Interesting post, although I found it a little too late :-) Seems to me Linkvana should have long past the 300 mark, but they are still pitching the same way. Do you have any updates on your current running campaigns with them?

  • 64 Eddy // Mar 24, 2009 at 1:43 am

    Hi Chris,

    Just like Discount Coupons, I may came to read your posts a little too late.

    However, I am thinking of getting Linkvana.com, and may you can shed some light on my queries.

    #1 I am intend to use linkvana to link back to my niche salespage with only 2 internal page. Can I use linkvana to get page #1 google ranking results with only 100-words post.

    #2 Do I have to create more 100-words post in order to see results?

    #3 Do I have to create authority sites that consists more than 50 html pages of articles or content in order to use linkvana more effectively.

    That’s all for the moment. And thanks for answering my comments.

    Eddy

  • 65 Robert Henry // Apr 8, 2009 at 12:49 pm

    Really great advice regarding the 3-way-links and linkvana. I just tried NextGen Links and experienced a ton of hassles –

    Based on your recommendation, I think I’ll try 3wayLink and then graduate to LinVana!

    Thanks again!

  • 66 Ray // Apr 21, 2009 at 8:08 am

    How would you suggest using LV to get a couple of thousand pages for long tail keywords ranked at one web site?

  • 67 Barb // Apr 29, 2009 at 8:20 am

    Chris -
    A little feedback on the free 5-day trial for LinkVana –

    - I had incorrectly assumed the monthly fee was “per site” and was thrilled to learn that it’s for an unlimited number of sites. So the service just got a LOT more affordable :)

    - I have already seen the links showing up in Yahoo for each of the 3 sites I’m promoting. Don’t know about G as they haven’t updated my site links this week.

    - Having written ten 500-word articles for each of these sites, I find it easy to whip out 100 words a day for my LinkVana posts. But I do NOT copy and paste snippets from my articles, as LinkVana checks for 100% unique content (down to the sentence). I just take a quick look at my articles for talking points and then write off the top of my head. Easy.

    - I find myself comparing LinkVana to the $42 per site that I spend to submit to directories. I submitted my first site to the directories a month ago and have only seen a dozen or so links. I’m wondering if I’m getting enough return on that service when I can build dozens of better quality links per week with LinkVana?

    Do you still submit to directories?

    Thanks,
    Barb

  • 68 Get Rid of Warts // May 19, 2009 at 2:52 am

    Thanks for the interesting post, Chris. I have used 3-way links from the beginning, having been a beta tester.

    My main site started off with a PR of 4 when I joined, but this has dropped to PR of only 2 since, in spite of other linking I have done and the 250 links it got though this network.

    I have not pulled it off, as the site may drop further – at least it has maintained its 2 PR for some time now :-)

    Keep up the great work.

    Barry

  • 69 Nicole // Jun 15, 2009 at 12:25 pm

    Can someone tell me, with 3 way links, is it possible to add PHP file to a squidoo lens? If so how?

    Email: sales@ergorehabinc.com

    THANK YOU!

  • 70 Will // Jul 19, 2009 at 1:20 am

    Chris,

    How many blog post are you outsourcing per keyword when using Linkvana?

    -Will

  • 71 Kate // Aug 17, 2009 at 3:10 am

    3waylinks is very fussy about which websites they accept. One word about religion or yoga or a bunch of other topics and they will reject the site.

  • 72 Tom Greene // Oct 13, 2009 at 11:06 am

    Hi Chris,

    I’ve been using LV for a while now, and am getting good results, but I am concerned that if using it for white-hat sites some SEO’s could analyze the backlink profile for the sites I’m linking to which are shooting up the SERPs, and file a spam report with Google.

    If this did happen, and a Google employee were to then examine the backlink profile for such a site, they could ban the site couldn’t they?

    Would appreciate your opinion on this.

    thanks
    Tom

  • 73 Brittany // Nov 27, 2009 at 1:43 am

    Chris,

    Thanks for clearing that up. I was wondering which was better for what scenario and you explained it perfectly :)

  • 74 Hostmonster Review // Nov 30, 2009 at 3:06 pm

    I’m subscribed to Linkvana for a week and a half and submitted 1 hundred posts for 10 projects, but still seeing no difference in my rankings, maybe the posts at the Linkvana network still are not getting indexed, but maybe Google has banned all the network.

    Chris I subscribed using your affiliate link. Do you have any recommendation? How many post you should outsource and what to expect in what time frame?

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  • 76 John // May 19, 2010 at 6:57 am

    Chris,

    Everything you write and all the tools that you suggest are very powerful. I have started taking your advice on many items that you have suggested. Thanks for sharing the success features that you have employed.

  • 77 Joe Carpet Cleaner // Jul 8, 2010 at 10:23 pm

    One major point that needs to be addressed is: “Do these links disappear if you cancel the service?” I know the answer to 3 way links is yes, but what about LinkVana?

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    Does 3WayLinks still work in your opinion? Do you think that Google has discovered the footprint for this service?

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