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October 27th, 2008 · 103 Comments

Last week I broadcasted an email to all my newsletter lists with a “teaser” about an upcoming product that would enable you to literally “game” the MSN search engine and rank #1 for unbelievable keywords.

Well - here’s proof:

And I’m assuming that you’ve figured out who the brains behind this method is by now if you’ve watched the video.

This is the real deal, folks, and there is some MAJOR opportunity here for all of us.

Remember that the real power here is how quickly these rankings can occur, and how small these sites are (one page).

We are literally just picking one “untouchable” keyword after the next and nailing them with a top-3 spot on the first page of results consistently, over and over again.

MSN may not have the traffic of Google, but there’s still MILLIONS of searches conducted every day through it, and something I’ve noticed from my own rankings in MSN is that it actually converts a little better than other traffic sources. No idea why, but it just does.

We’re madly working to put this all together and have it ready to go by the month end or thereabouts.

Stay tuned - and start building those keyword lists :-)

Take care,

Chris

P.S. This will sell like crazy because it’s legit and we have the proof to back it up. So if you’re interested in cashing in on this in TWO ways (one by using the actual strategy, and two by promoting this surefire hot-seller), please contact me at chris@thelazymarketer.com with “MSN Code Promo” as the subject line…

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103 responses so far ↓

  • 1 admin // Oct 27, 2008 at 8:15 pm

    One thing I’d like to say right off the bat is that Dave Kelly - aside from being one of the most respected search engine optimization marketers - is also the guy behind LinkVana.

    http://www.thelazymarketer.com/linkvana/

    This method doesn’t replace LinkVana or nullify it’s usefulness.

    LV is the ultimate, automatic back-link generator that will rank your sites specifically in Google, rather than MSN.

    So I still recommend and use LinkVana.

    The MSN strategy here is more of an untapped traffic strategy that is literally almost too good to be true.

    Just wanted to clarify…

    Thanks,

    -Chris

    P.S. LinkVana isn’t cheap, but if you haven’t already, check out how you can actually use LV for “no cost”…

    http://www.thelazymarketer.com/flash/700in2weeks.html

  • 2 Marvin // Oct 27, 2008 at 8:46 pm

    Sending an email to chris@thelazymarketer.com only returns an automated response to use your support link.

  • 3 Nick // Oct 27, 2008 at 8:50 pm

    Hey Chris

    Emailed you but got an autoresponse directing me to your customer support page.

    In case you never got the email, definitely interesting in getting hold of a copy and promoting it.

    Hit me up at the email I entered for this post.

    Any chance of an advance/review copy?

  • 4 admin // Oct 27, 2008 at 8:51 pm

    Marvin,

    I still get them though.

    Don’t worry about sending a support ticket.

    I have my email filter set up to save emails with that subject line in my “affiliates” folder.

    I can’t give out review copies at this time.

    Thanks,

    -Chris

  • 5 Ivan // Oct 27, 2008 at 8:51 pm

    Wow I went a little above and found all of the sites… Amazing… I am definitely looking forward to this. Will I get it if I purchased all future VIP reports?

  • 6 Steven // Oct 27, 2008 at 8:51 pm

    This sounds too good to be true.
    I really hope it doesn’t get patched days after the release of this hack… Don’t you think it will?

  • 7 admin // Oct 27, 2008 at 8:52 pm

    Hi Ivan,

    This is a joint venture with Dave Kelly, so it’s not one of my VIP products.

    Still just as much value as my other stuff though - and this one is LUCRATIVE.

    -Chris

  • 8 Terence // Oct 27, 2008 at 8:52 pm

    That’s one heck of a teaser, Chris.

    Truth is, I would keep it all to myself if I knew what you knew.

  • 9 Jeff // Oct 27, 2008 at 8:56 pm

    I tried to send you an email for the Promo Code, and got a response saying your box was full

  • 10 admin // Oct 27, 2008 at 8:58 pm

    Thanks Terence :-)

    One thing I’d like to say is that if, like Ivan, you do find these sites, you need to realize that this method cannot be reverse engineered by its own design.

    There is absolutely no way for any human or spider to pick this apart, recognize a trend or identify a footprint.

    Because there is none, and the traditional link-lookup resources and so on won’t help.

    This method is ingenious to say the least :-)

    -Chris

  • 11 admin // Oct 27, 2008 at 8:59 pm

    Hi Jeff,

    I got it just fine.

    Ignore the autoresponse.

    Thanks

    -Chris

  • 12 Mark // Oct 27, 2008 at 9:03 pm

    Chris,

    Excellent stuff as usual! Can’t wait for more details dude!

    Mark

  • 13 admin // Oct 27, 2008 at 9:05 pm

    Steven,

    You said:

    “This sounds too good to be true.
    I really hope it doesn’t get patched days after the release of this hack… Don’t you think it will?”

    I can’t remember the last time MSN did anything, let alone patch their algorithm.

    This is a strategy that USES msn’s existing algorithm to give it what it wants.

    I can’t guarantee that it will last “forever” or anything, but MSN would have to literally change it’s algo’s to prevent this from happening.

    This isn’t a “blackhat” technique, though.

    Your page still needs to be relevant and on-topic.

    It’s just that you can seemingly “simulate” authority and therefore rank very highly with very little effort.

    -Chris

  • 14 Patrick // Oct 27, 2008 at 9:10 pm

    I’m so excited. I can’t wait! Just got back to the civilised world and I have internet. Glad to be on your list

  • 15 Wilson // Oct 27, 2008 at 9:12 pm

    Hi Chris,

    I have 2 questions
    - Is there any thing unethical about using this method
    - Is there any way for msn to trace the particual sites using this method like the 3 way links kind of thing that we have to install?
    - What is the price range going to be like and what are you guys going to do to prevent this from getting into the hands of too many people

    Thanks
    Wilson

  • 16 admin // Oct 27, 2008 at 9:15 pm

    Hi Wilson

    That looks a lot like 3 questions to me :-)

    Anyway:

    1. No.

    2. No. Although there is an on-site element to it, but you control it, not us.

    3. Still deciding.

    Thanks

    -Chris

  • 17 Ivan // Oct 27, 2008 at 9:24 pm

    What is the product name? When will it be launched? When can I promote??

    Need some info this is gonna be big!!

    =]

  • 18 Brenda // Oct 27, 2008 at 9:38 pm

    Just wondering how long you are going to make us wait?

    Also, would be nice to have an idea of the price tag….ya know, so we can decide which bill won’t get paid this week :)

  • 19 Cynthia // Oct 27, 2008 at 9:41 pm

    There are many things that you can do to get high rankings on search engines, but those rankings are generally very short lived. The question I have with this is - how long do the high ranking last? And how hard is it to keep those rankings?

    Thanks

  • 20 Nicholas // Oct 27, 2008 at 9:51 pm

    I just sent you an email, asking for the promo code. Looking forward to seeing your reply. and looking forward to seeing the product in action. The video sure looked impressive. And I am sure my list will eat this thing up :)

  • 21 Nicholas // Oct 27, 2008 at 9:55 pm

    If you can even rank just half a day for a couple of big terms inside a big market, you’d be looking at tens of thousands extra visitors if you do it right. Putting just a fraction of that on your list, or redirecting it to your main money maker, could proof to be very beneficial for you. And if you repeat this as many times as possible, you’d be looking at a gigantic payraise. I’d exploit it as much as I can.

    My question is just:

    Does this only work for 1 page sites? Or could you build several pages on those sites? And do these sites also have a possibility to rank in Google and Yahoo, eventually?

  • 22 admin // Oct 27, 2008 at 10:10 pm

    Hi Cynthia - with the kind of keywords you can rank for with this, even if they are short-lived, the pay-offs certainly wouldn’t be “short”.

    Personally, myself I am using this strategy mostly to build email lists of subscribers in various niches.

    However, that said - Dave’s been doing this for quite a while now, and it’s not really a “hack” or anything.

    The content still needs to be relevant to rank.

    And in order to convert, it needs to be of quality.

    But it really is a ranking shortcut.

    -Chris

  • 23 admin // Oct 27, 2008 at 10:11 pm

    Hi Brenda,

    I’m honestly not sure yet - I need to sort that out still.

    It will bemore than reasonable considering what it is.

    Thanks!

    -Chris

  • 24 admin // Oct 27, 2008 at 10:15 pm

    @Nicholas - Dave’s sites have been getting Google traffic as well (just not as much).

    As for larger sites - I don’t know yet.

    The minisites are working awesome.

    -Chris

  • 25 Nicholas // Oct 27, 2008 at 10:19 pm

    Well, Chris, if this is all really true… I will promote it to my list after I tested this myself and proved it to be true. Because this sounds fantastic. I can only imagine what I’d do with all the extra subscribers I’d be getting out of this in the markets I’m in. And will help many people, no matter how long this lasts. I’d even create a bonus to make sure as many people as possible get this report/something else? And I haven’t been doing that for a long time as I didn’t see anything worthy enough.

  • 26 Jeremy Hier // Oct 27, 2008 at 10:19 pm

    Very cool Chris,

    thanks.

  • 27 Jun // Oct 27, 2008 at 10:19 pm

    Using MSN for easy rankings is nothing new… it’s been like this for a long time and they have always been relatively easy to manipulate.

    The better question is: how long will these rankings stay at the top for highly competitive keywords?

    /Jun

  • 28 Terry // Oct 27, 2008 at 10:25 pm

    I can’t wait to see the report!
    ***Try this for a snazzy product title that ties in with the season***

    “Traffic Vampire”

  • 29 maria gudelis // Oct 27, 2008 at 10:40 pm

    I use linkvana and love it - plenty of my sites are on google page1 so having Dave Kelly on this - Fantastic!!

  • 30 admin // Oct 27, 2008 at 10:59 pm

    Hi Nicholas,

    It’s very much the real thing.

    I wouldn’t stake my reputation on some hoax for a quick buck.

    Thanks

    -Chris

  • 31 Stephen // Oct 27, 2008 at 11:33 pm

    MSN does give a huge amount of weight to keywords that appear in the domain name, and very little weight to site content. but how long can this situation last? maybe quite a while…

  • 32 Kenny // Oct 28, 2008 at 12:17 am

    Hey Chris,

    No product you’ve put out has ever let me down. You’re probably one of the only Internet Marketers out there I actually trust. Really looking forward to this.

  • 33 Steven // Oct 28, 2008 at 12:46 am

    Alright this sounds pretty cool…

    I hope you guys price it reasonably because this could potentially help a lot of people (like me) raise additional money to promote their main money sites :)

    p.s. Chris, I am having trouble creating profitable software submissions that make sales. If you could give me some pointers that would be awesome, but I know you are very busy. Are there any additional resources on software marketing you could refer me to?

    Thank You

  • 34 Osobase // Oct 28, 2008 at 2:33 am

    This looks so COOL! I can’t wait to grab a copy!

    Chris, is there anyway I can purchase this without PayPal? I had access to PayPal the last time I purchased your JV product, but not anymore. I would appreciate an alternative means of payment that is not tied to PayPal.

    Thanks.

  • 35 Roy Sencio // Oct 28, 2008 at 3:38 am

    Very interesting…. one common thing I noticed with the three examples were…

    a. the search term or keyword phrase was part of the domain name

    b. these sites were 1 page sites

    c. the content was well optimized for the search phrase, good keyword density (averaging 2-5 percent) and keywords used as anchor text 3 times in content

    d. they also had a good number of backlinks, with 1 site at least 150 links pointing to the main domain

    So the question now is, if I created something a one page site using the above as a guide, will I get the same results?

    Still waiting for Chris’ reply to my email.

  • 36 admin // Oct 28, 2008 at 3:45 am

    Hi Roy,

    Your observations are valid, but that’s just the tip of the iceberg.

    If you followed your four steps outlined based on what you see from the sample sites, you’d be at the same spot as anyone else with a site who wants to get ranked.

    The “method” here has to do with another factor that YOU control. It’s completely untraceable.

    And in this case, the number of backlinks you see with a lookup site isn’t exactly what meets the eye.

    That’s all I can say.

    (This will all make sense shortly).

    -Chris

  • 37 Nathan // Oct 28, 2008 at 3:50 am

    Hi Chris,

    What’s the longevity of the ranking?

    Do your sites stay at the top for more than 30 days? 3 months? 6 months?

    Thanks!

  • 38 admin // Oct 28, 2008 at 4:07 am

    Hi Nathan

    I’ve just started doing this, but Dave has sites that have maintained rank for more than a year.

    Here’s a quote from the in-progress sales letter, from Dave:

    “Cracking The MSN Code will teach you the exact steps I use to totally and completely dominate MSN.

    Of the last 100 sites I have built, 53 are ranked #1, 30 are ranked # 2, and 7 are ranked in positions 3-5.

    This is not about some technique that will be here today and gone tomorrow. I have sites that were built 2 years ago using these techniques that are still ranked #1″

    Hope that clears a few things up :-)

    -Chris

  • 39 admin // Oct 28, 2008 at 4:24 am

    Oh - something I just realized and forgot to mention…

    IF YOU ARE NOT FROM THE UNITED STATES, YOU WILL SEE DIFFERENT SEARCH RESULTS & RANKINGS.

    MSN adjusts its results based on your IP address, for some reason.

    -Chris

  • 40 Jazz // Oct 28, 2008 at 4:33 am

    This is crap…
    I search on MSN and the sites are no longer there…did some research on the urls…
    it’s all from expired domains…
    get-rid-of-debt.org
    online-credit.org
    http://www.poor-credit-rating.com

  • 41 Mike // Oct 28, 2008 at 4:35 am

    Looks good - but can it rank for valuable phrases? I mean ‘online credit’ looks impressive, but type it into Wordtracker and you’ll get less than 12 searches a day (that’s where the free list cuts off and it ain’t on there above that!), ‘poor credit rating’ - 9 searches a day, ‘get rid of debt’ 6 searches a day… Dave’s online credit site doesn’t even have an Alexa rating! So does it work for keywords where people are actually trying to rank?

  • 42 admin // Oct 28, 2008 at 4:38 am

    Jazz,

    Far from it.

    First of all - are you from the US? If not, then you’re seeing different results than American users.

    Second, re: expired domains.

    It doesn’t make a difference. New domains work just as well.

    These rankings in the video are merely sample sites that were put up just for this purpose (showing how powerful this is).

    There is no way to reverse-engineer this, and yes, it does work.

    Call it what you want, but I’d rather have results than be “right”.

    -Chris

  • 43 admin // Oct 28, 2008 at 4:44 am

    @Mike - What keyword tool are you using?

    Google’s kw estimates are the following:

    550,000 searches/mth for “online credit”

    6,600 searches/mth for “get rid of debt”

    5,400 searches/mth for “poor credit rating”

    And so on.

    Yes, MSN has less traffic than Google, but I know from experience just how “varying” the keyword tool estimates really are in comparison to what really matters - my stats.

    Keep in mind folks that these are just sample keywords and sites.

    Dave and I aren’t going to reveal our actual money-makers.

    That would be insane.

    But we WILL reveal the method.

    -Chris

  • 44 Mike // Oct 28, 2008 at 4:50 am

    Hi Chris - wow, looks like Wordtracker sucks!

    http://freekeywords.wordtracker.com/?seed=poor+credit+rating&adult_filter=remove_offensive&suggest=Hit+Me

    shows it as 9 searches a day, Google shows it as 14,800 a month…

  • 45 admin // Oct 28, 2008 at 4:54 am

    Which would you rather believe -

    Google?

    Or an independant service long known to have ridiculously inaccurate traffic estimates?

    Try to imagine the absurdity of a keyword like “get rid of debt” only being searched 6 times a day.

    Especially in our cash-strapped economy.

    But that’s beside the point. And the point is that you can systematically rank for basically anything.

    As Dave pointed out on the video, one of the #1 rankings was competing with 570 million other pages.

    (Try doing that with a typical SEO strategy…)

    -Chris

  • 46 C // Oct 28, 2008 at 4:55 am

    Seems straightforward enough. Just get over 100 Yahoo backlinks and over 100,000 Alexa Search backlinks.

  • 47 admin // Oct 28, 2008 at 5:00 am

    @ C - I can assure you that you’re not seeing the full picture, regardless of what you see.

    All I can say is that there is more than meets the eye to this.

    Although I would encourage you to try and beat out some of the sample sites in the video by doing just that and see what happens :-)

    Like I’ve been saying, this can’t be reverse-engineered, by its own design.

    Anyone who gets this will immediately realize that and have a major advantage.

    -Chris

  • 48 admin // Oct 28, 2008 at 5:03 am

    Alright folks - I’m off to bed.

    Need to finish the salesletter for this and some other stuff related to it, and then we’re basically ready to launch.

    I’ll be back on the blog in the morning sometime (Pacific standard time)

    Cheers

    -Chris

  • 49 Inga // Oct 28, 2008 at 5:30 am

    Hi,
    If we are not in the US, will we not have good use of this method, is that what you are saying?

  • 50 TJ Short // Oct 28, 2008 at 5:34 am

    Sounds really cool man I cannot wait to try it out to see how many more number 1 spots I can get. I am starting to see a pattern with the results I am getting from my latest testing so this will be out of site.

    I promise to only do good NOT evil with your product. Check out my profile to see what I mean at http://hubpages.com/profile/ausis

    If you would like to you can visit me in Australia or leave a reply comment on my blog
    Australian’s doing the right thing

  • 51 admin // Oct 28, 2008 at 5:37 am

    Inga - NO.

    What I’m saying is that MSN displays different results for different countries.

    The US is still the primary online market, by far. That’s the majority of internet users.

    All this means is that if you’re not from the US, the example rankings might look different when you search the keywords mentioned.

    That’s all.

    -Chris

  • 52 Laurence // Oct 28, 2008 at 5:41 am

    Hi Chris

    This looks great and I’m loving your VIP products. However, I just have one overriding question - why would you release this?

    If Dave is doing so well from this, (and I’m sure he’s making $$$$’s), why tell everyone else about it? I realise he’ll make money from selling the plan - but won’t this amount be negligible in comparison to keeping this secret and continuing to make money from the huge traffic numbers he’s getting?

    What I’m really thinking is this - is there no real way of telling how long this will work for, so ultimately its better to get this out now before it stops working? (I don’t mean this to sound cynical but it almost seems to good to be true?!)

    Thanks again for your great products and guides.

    -Loz

  • 53 takony // Oct 28, 2008 at 6:10 am

    Within 2 months of release MSN will fix the backdoor. The only reason behind this promo is to get more visibility to Chris’ products and Dave’s Linkvana or whatever he pushes, so don’t get excited.

  • 54 admin // Oct 28, 2008 at 6:22 am

    Hi Laurence,

    That’s a great question that deserves an answer…

    The answer in this case is multi-faceted, so I’ll divide it up into “sections”…

    1. First and foremost, teaching and training in the IM niche is something that we’re passionate about, because it’s our livelihood.

    Some marketers are quite secretive, and everyone has a few cards up their sleeves, to be sure.

    However - the satisfaction of seeing my peers, subscribers and people that are within my “sphere of influence” experience great results on account of stuff I’ve created or taught is well worth any potential opportunity cost.

    When people join my list, I promise them that I’ll share actual techniques and genuinely COOL stuff that your average Joe “guru” wouldn’t touch with a 10-foot pole (unless there was forced continuity built into it somehow)…

    This is an example of such.

    2. The strategy here is a “traffic trick”. It works very well, but traffic is only as good as the business it builds.

    Regardless of how long it may last, given the possibilities of how much traffic is at stake, it’s well worth doing even if it only lasted a WEEK.

    The best thing to do here is to use this strategy to promote opt-in lists in profitable niches.

    That said - it’s already been working for more than a year.

    This is “gravy”. It’s not what I would base my business on, but it’s a GREAT way to obtain more traffic and customers for as long as it lasts.

    Just like how in real estate, timing is everything.

    Right now - THIS is “good timing”!

    And since there’s literally millions of profitable keywords out there, we couldn’t sell enough to make this obsolete for ourselves.

    3. The sad fact is that regardless of how easy or great a product is, very, very few people will actually follow it.

    And not that we rely on this or take it into consideration, but the fact of the matter is that I’d be amazed if even 10% of the people who buy this will end up using it.

    I sincerely hope that more than that will use it and profit from it - but most people simply won’t get around to doing the things they start.

    This is sort of an ugly truth that many publishers won’t tell you, but it’s reality.

    So even if exclusivity WAS a factor, it still would have little impact.

    4. And finally - it’s just fun to launch products like this.

    When you’ve got something GOOD - it feels great to share that with others who will truly enjoy it.

    And in this case, we don’t have a scarcity mindset.

    In retrospect, I shared a lot of strategies in “Confessions” that many people thought I should have kept under wraps.

    But look what happened?

    Many, many people have, as a result, seen life-changing results and income as a direct result of those strategies.

    And they sure haven’t stopped working for me, either.

    The only thing I don’t share are my niches, because then it truly would become an issue for me since everyone would just copycat my sites.

    I hope this clears a few things up :-)

    Cheers

    -Chris

    P.S. To reiterate, I think personally my biggest reason for sharing stuff like this is so that I can actually stand apart from the majority of other marketers out there who just promote one big hype-fest launch after the next.

  • 55 takony // Oct 28, 2008 at 6:31 am

    I guess MSN is already working on it and Dave knows it so it’s time to milk the cow for the last time. But I see how this could be a win-win situation.

  • 56 admin // Oct 28, 2008 at 6:44 am

    So, takony - would you rather that Dave and I just keep this to ourselves, then?

    “Within 2 months of release MSN will fix the backdoor. The only reason behind this promo is to get more visibility to Chris’ products and Dave’s Linkvana or whatever he pushes, so don’t get excited.”

    Your mindset is hilarious.

    Do you work for MSN or something?

    Would you rather that I just flog the latest “rah rah rah” product launch like a good little marketer?

    Tell you what.

    How about you wait a few months, or a year, or however long it takes for MSN to update its algo, which may never even happen.

    And if/when that does happen, then you can triumphantly tell us all that you “told us so”, and that you were right all along.

    Meanwhile, though - anyone who’s been using this strategy will have used it to build massive mailing lists, generate tons of sales or CPA leads, etc.

    So even if it is “short term” - which I have no reason to believe it is - is the joke really on us?

    Or you?

    Think about it.

    -Chris

  • 57 takony // Oct 28, 2008 at 7:28 am

    Chris, that’s not my real mindset. It would be kind of said being that irrational. I just kind of wanted to make the rabbit jump and see how you react, get more info and response like #54.

    Seriously, I agree with everything you said and I’m happy for this opportunity. I’ll hit it so hard that’s not even funny so thanks for notifying us.

  • 58 Dave // Oct 28, 2008 at 7:45 am

    This is too cool. It’s 2003 and 2004 all over again. Microsoft has a patent on detecting / weighting this stuff… good to see that they don’t eat their own dog food.

  • 59 Ian // Oct 28, 2008 at 8:15 am

    This almost sounds to good to be true, bring it on =)

  • 60 Neo // Oct 28, 2008 at 8:57 am

    Chris,
    What a tease mate!
    You are mastering the art of “Product Launching”. I have bought almost all your products so far. But even for your VIP launch you didn’t tease us, subscribers to this extend.
    Now if you limit the copy of this product to 1000, it will be sold out within hours. (Hey, keep a copy for me please.. :) )
    I got some hints from the video. But I still want to buy this one. Can’t wait to get a hold of this.

    You are one of the rare webmasters who delivers truly amazing products. Cheers mate!
    -Neo

  • 61 Inga // Oct 28, 2008 at 10:01 am

    Hi, Inga here again, with another (maybe stupid?) question - will this work with popular keywords in any language?

    Thanks.

  • 62 Laurence // Oct 28, 2008 at 12:41 pm

    Thanks Chris

    That’s a great full length answer and a totally believable one too - that’s why I’ve stayed on your list longer than most IM teachers out there.

    I’m going to buy this when it comes out as it sounds great - even if it does only have short term value, (which I actually don’t think it will have). If everyone gets set up properly they can build a good sized list before (and only if) this stops working.

    I like your comments on taking action too - I’ve only put one of your plans into action partially, and have so far made over $200 from doing not much. As I ramp up the action I take, I’m confident I can use your online models to make as much as I want to from the Internet. “Just add action” seems to be the necessary mantra for success that so many people overlook.

    Anyway, thanks again and keep up the good work.

    -Loz

    PS - Cynicism will get me nowhere!!!

  • 63 Dave // Oct 28, 2008 at 3:01 pm

    Chris, Will this method require anything extra - like tools to build a feed or finding high ranking sites to link to? Thanks. Dave

  • 64 admin // Oct 28, 2008 at 3:03 pm

    Hi Dave,

    Not really. It’s hard to sort of explain it in that sense, but everything that is required to make this work is under your control.

    There is some initial setup, but after that it’s just a matter of ranking one site after the next.

    Thanks

    -Chris

  • 65 Daniel // Oct 28, 2008 at 4:52 pm

    Hi Chris,

    Why are the URLs hidden / greyed out in the video ? How do I know these are really Dave’s sites ?

  • 66 admin // Oct 28, 2008 at 5:03 pm

    Hi Daniel,

    The URLs are greyed out to prevent abuse and blatant copying.

    Even though the sites/rankings shown are purely for example and aren’t Dave’s primary “moneymakers” or anything, they’re still his property - and in this niche, many unscrupulous people will rip off your sites without a second thought.

    It’s happened to me, many times.

    In terms of having Dave prove ownership, I think that’s kind of redundant.

    All the sites are in the same format and style, and Dave isn’t exactly a newbie with this - and neither of us would be involved in launching this if it didn’t work.

    You can believe what you want, but take it from someone who has his own rankings on MSN - it works, and it works well.

    And yes, those are most certainly Dave’s sites.

    And he has thousands of them.

    -Chris

  • 67 Roy Sencio // Oct 28, 2008 at 6:24 pm

    The URLs are grayed out but its easy to spot. Just pause the video and look the title and description on the SERP. That’s how I got to check these sites and reverse engineer to a small degree what could be working for them.

    I say “could” because there might be something more that I am not aware of.. and I will likely know so when Chris and Dave release this.

    For those who are not in the US, yes you do get different search results… in fact that happens for all search engines, as the engines take into consideration location where search is done. I don’t know if anyone has called it anything but I call proximal relevance.

    To overcome this, use a proxy so you get a US IP.

  • 68 admin // Oct 28, 2008 at 6:31 pm

    “I say “could” because there might be something more that I am not aware of.. and I will likely know so when Chris and Dave release this.”

    I can absolutely guarantee that this is a fact.

    It is impossible to reverse engineer.

    What you may learn from on-site factors and backlink origins is NOT the true “secret” here…

    There’s some other things in play that simply cannot be researched.

    -Chris

  • 69 Ivan // Oct 28, 2008 at 6:34 pm

    Why so much accusations? Do you guys honestly believe Chris would scam us and mess up his reputation? Shit I for one and more interested in the launch date then whether or not it works. Take a look at those one page sites and you will be pretty amazed and that should be proof enough.

  • 70 Ivan // Oct 28, 2008 at 6:37 pm

    How is a 70 day old domain listed so high! Chris you need to go do some work with that sales page so I can click that buy now button!

  • 71 admin // Oct 28, 2008 at 6:38 pm

    Ivan, many people simply refuse to believe things like this for whatever reason.

    It’s really their loss.

    However, on the blog, it’s important that I stand up to these accusations and criticisms because - unlike most marketers - what I’ve got is actually the real deal.

    So to everyone else reading this - you can believe what ever you want, and by all means, feel free NOT to get this when it launches.

    But to those who are genuinely interested in using this technique to obtain a TON of traffic, easily - well, you’ve got a lot to look forward to :-)

    Cheers

    -Chris

  • 72 Osobase // Oct 29, 2008 at 1:16 am

    Not even a reply for a client who wants to buy even more of your stuff?

    :(

  • 73 admin // Oct 29, 2008 at 1:18 am

    Hi Osobase,

    Sorry - I honestly missed that previous comment.

    The product will be sold via ClickBank, which accepts payment from all major credit cards, paypal and a few other options also.

    So it will definitely be available for you :-)

    -Chris

  • 74 Inga // Oct 29, 2008 at 3:32 am

    Did you see my question above? Would it work for setting up a website in any language?

    Thanks.

  • 75 admin // Oct 29, 2008 at 3:35 am

    Hi Inga,

    I don’t see why not.

    To qualify that though, I haven’t tested non-English keywords and I don’t think Dave has either (maybe he has, I don’t know).

    But I can’t see why MSN would use different algos for different languages.

    The ranking methods should work just as well.

    Thanks

    -Chris

  • 76 CHRIS FARRELL // Oct 29, 2008 at 4:39 am

    Hey Chris!

    Any idea of an actual release date? This week? Next? Before Obama gets in?!

    Kindest and my best to you…

    Chris Farrell

  • 77 Inga // Oct 29, 2008 at 6:33 am

    Clickbank is good, except for one thing, they put on 25% stupid tax for the download service, for Swedish citizens, making i.e. a $97 product cost $121.25 etc (example), annoying (and the Swedish currency did just dip deeply in regard to the $). But there will be no other option, will it?

  • 78 Pete // Oct 29, 2008 at 7:58 am

    It’s saying that the video is no longer available

  • 79 Pete // Oct 29, 2008 at 7:59 am

    Sorry - it’s working now

  • 80 Neo // Oct 29, 2008 at 12:10 pm

    Chris,
    Any clue on the tentative date of launching this product? I can’t wait to buy this and I am loosing my patience… LOL!
    -Neo

  • 81 Cinjon // Oct 29, 2008 at 1:58 pm

    Hi Chris:

    Are you still fielding comments from other posts? Maybe you should kick off that forum you mentioned to take some of the load off. Then again, you may end up filtering more fodder than anticipated. There are some valid and useful contributions, however. Thanks to those and to your efforts as well!

  • 82 tony // Oct 29, 2008 at 2:07 pm

    Next time, don’t blur the website….how is anyone going to trust you.

  • 83 Nicholas // Oct 29, 2008 at 4:20 pm

    @ Tony: why don’t you just try plugging in the search term and check out the description, etc. You’ll find it. Even in Europe it’s there. And it’s still seems to be going strong since it’s on #1.

  • 84 Bob // Oct 30, 2008 at 5:53 am

    Hi Chris,

    Video looks awesome. Just trying to decide …

    On average how many hours are involved in launching each single page site. (other than the 1-2 hours creating that single page.

    -Bob

  • 85 admin // Oct 30, 2008 at 5:55 am

    Hi Bob,

    Your very first site has a fair bit of initial setup because you’re building what we call a “linkubator”, which is proprietary.

    After that, though, you can simply whip up one minisite after the next as fast as you can build them.

    -Chris

  • 86 Santa // Oct 30, 2008 at 6:45 am

    Can’t wait until i get at an other Pc as I cannot watch the flash file from here.
    Any way to get a discount for existing customers as buying via clickbank is puts a surcharge depending on your VAT rate on it.
    Or is there any other ways to buy?

  • 87 admin // Oct 30, 2008 at 6:52 am

    Hi Santa (ho ho ho…)

    Being as this is a joint-project and not my own exclusive product, I don’t have that kind of flexibility with this…

    I am truly sorry.

    However, I can assure you that the payoff from using this method should significantly outweigh the small amount we’re asking…

    Thanks

    -Chris

  • 88 Ivan - Work Online Make Money // Oct 30, 2008 at 2:32 pm

    Hey Chris, I just had an idea for your sales page. How about if you showed screen shots of the amount of visitors your sample sites get.

    A quick screen shot of Google anylitics can definitely show people how powerful this will truly be.

    Just a thought..

    And yea I thought I should add a quick Anchor text to help my new page out a bit. =]

  • 89 Ivan - Wealthy Affiliate Review // Oct 30, 2008 at 2:36 pm

    And one more thing. Since people are able to figure out what the site is anyways why not just not blur the video? This will stop people from doubting so much and would save some extra work on are part.

    -Ivan

  • 90 Gary // Oct 30, 2008 at 11:19 pm

    Most of the sites mentioned are not ranking well now. Maybe he changed something on his sites?

    If this is not permanent, may not be worth our while after all we need to pay hosting and domain fees

    Just wondering.

  • 91 admin // Oct 30, 2008 at 11:41 pm

    Hi Gary,

    You must be from Canada or Europe (or elsewise not the US)

    View MSN through this proxy:

    http://proxify.com/

    And then run the searches.

    The only one that changed was “online credit” down from #1 to #2

    This kind of fluctuation does happen, but it was hardly bounced.

    -Chris

  • 92 Inga // Oct 31, 2008 at 11:49 am

    Hi,

    For how long will this opportunity window be open?

    Thanks.

  • 93 Cynthia // Nov 2, 2008 at 6:21 pm

    Hi Chris,

    Got the early notification email. Another question I have is if this is a “loophole” does that mean that this can only work for one site per category or niche? For example, we see “get rid of debt” & a couple terms related to credit in the video. Does that mean that no one else with a debt or credit related site can get good results? After all, only one site can have the number one spot.

  • 94 admin // Nov 2, 2008 at 7:16 pm

    Hi Cynthia,

    This works on a keyword by keyword basis.

    Each site will only be ranked at the top for ONE keyword.

    Since *every* niche market has literally HUNDREDS if not THOUSANDS of desirable keyword targets, the usage and application here is unlimited.

    Also, we have sites spanning every imaginable niche, market type and industry.

    Debt relief is one small, small example…

    Thanks,

    -Chris

  • 95 Jonclaude // Nov 3, 2008 at 6:17 am

    Why you don’t show the link ?

  • 96 John // Nov 3, 2008 at 2:09 pm

    Ok, my big question is this: Is there an upsell to expect from this product? Some sort of program or softwere we have to buy into in order to set everything up?

    - John

  • 97 Stan // Nov 3, 2008 at 3:40 pm

    Hi Chris,

    Kept an eye on the link for VIP members until 12.30, nothing happened.

    Came back 5 minutes later and it was sold out … damned :-)

  • 98 Buddy // Nov 3, 2008 at 3:49 pm

    It might have been a nice opportunity for those with faster internet links than me. 100 in four minutes…bummer.

  • 99 Mike // Nov 3, 2008 at 4:06 pm

    Well, I bought it, but haven’t been able to look at it yet. After purchase you are presented with a half price OTO that is supposed to make the process easier. But, I don’t know what the process is, so how do I know if I need the OTO?

    Don’t want to miss the OTO if I really need it, but don’t know if I need it because I can’t get to the product until I decide on the OTO.

    What to do?

    Mike

  • 100 Slade // Nov 3, 2008 at 9:22 pm

    Chris…or to those who have bought…,

    What’s the ramp up time involved for creating one of these sites?

    I think I read in a previous comment that there was some initial set up time. What’s the ballpark time it takes to set one up?

  • 101 JoeT // Nov 4, 2008 at 4:46 am

    How can anyone seriously think MSN will not take whatever steps they need to and close this loophole down?

    Before this became so publicly known, it probably sat on their back burner on one of their to do lists.

    Now that the whole world is being made aware of this, I suspect it will move to the top of their list and become a priority to resolve.

    Otherwise, with the large number of users there will surely be, many top keywords will have 1st page results laden with one page sites using this tactic.

    Having an occasional single page site showing up in the top 10 may fly. I seriously think it will last long once multiple sites like this are knocking out more relevant sites that truly deserve to make the top 10.

    Is it possible the authors behind this know it will be short-lived and are trying to make a fast buck before the party ends?

    If not, could someone please explain what happens when MSN ends up with 10 listings that are one page sites for a term like “credit cards”?

    Be really interested in the answer to this.

  • 102 admin // Nov 4, 2008 at 12:13 pm

    Joe,

    This is has been working for longer than 2 years.

    Also, we are not “cashing in” on a dying strategy.

    MSN has been abused and manipulated for years by blackhatters who promote cloaked sites and spam.

    With our method, it only works with relevant, tightly-themed content.

    So even though it is VERY effective to rank well, it’s the least of MSN’s problems.

    Also, as I’ve stated on this blog and in other places - even if the strategy were to “dry up” 6 months down the road - think about the kind of traffic, revenue and lists you could build in that time!

    It’s really your call.

    As of right now, this is working, and there is absolutely no indication that it will fail to continue working in the future.

    Thanks,

    -Chris

  • 103 Daniel F. // Nov 8, 2008 at 7:12 pm

    I have to believe other “loophole” folks are wondering the following:
    As I build the MSN code money sites I can’t help but notice the generic simplicity of Dave’s money sites…ya know the ones he reveals on his vid’s with a big block of copy and I close up image on the right…
    Especially his offer… it’s hard to even find where his offer is?!
    I’m wondering if any of his recent sites look the same or similar?
    What do you guys think?

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